tag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:/discussions/problems/2000-just-starting-with-mmd-on-windowsMultiMarkdown: Discussion 2020-10-19T00:31:09Ztag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-13T00:22:24Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Hi,<br>
I've installed MMD 6.5.1 (latest installer, apparently) and trie to use it. I got the following which I do not understand, having reviewed the help and the pdf manual (which is probably out of date). I would appreciate some help I also tried it with -t odf and without an output file.</p>
<p>C:\Windows\system32>cd "d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork"<br>
C:\Windows\system32>d:<br>
d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork>mmd --to=odf --output=c:\temp\x.odf "Are Information and Data Synonymous-5.md"<br>
MultiMarkdown: option "--to" requires an argument<br>
Try 'multimarkdown --help' for more information.<br>
'"d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork\multimarkdown"' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.<br>
'"d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork\multimarkdown"' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.<br>
'"d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork\multimarkdown"' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.<br>
Information was unexpected at this time.</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-13T00:30:54Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>This doesn't work either:<br>
d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork>mmd2odf "Are Information and Data Synonymous-5.md"<br>
'mmd2odf' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.</p>
<p>also<br>
d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork>multimarkdown -t odf 1.txt<br>
multimarkdown: Unknown output format 'odf'</p>
<p>These commands display html on the console (as it should)<br>
d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork>multimarkdown 1.txt<br>
d:\Dropbox_Writing\ehr commentary\ScrivenerWork>multimarkdown "Are Information and Data Synonymous-5.md"</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-13T14:21:21Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>You'll have to ask elsewhere to figure out how to handle command line software on Windows in general if you are having trouble with installation directories and command line paths.</p>
<p>But, from what you included you're doing a couple of things incorrectly:</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p>As per the error MultiMarkdown gave you, there is no "odf" format. There is "odt" and "fodt". "multimarkdown --help" gives you instructions and a list of all file formats</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>You seem to be swapping multimarkdown and mmd at times. multimarkdown is the program. mmd is a helper script that simplifies things when batch converting text files to HTML, and is comparable to mmd2opml, mmd2tex, etc. You can't pass arguments to mmd except for a list of input filenames. It is equivalent to running "multimarkdown -b file1.txt file2.txt .." Using "mmd" does require that multimarkdown is properly installed.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>"mmd2odf" gives an error, because there is no such thing, unless you create it.</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>You got HTML to work because you did it properly. If you use the proper options to multimarkdown for ODT output, then that will work too. "multimarkdown --help" is your friend. I would recommend getting used to multimarkdown, and then using the helper scripts (mmd, mmd2odt) once you understand how things work to make it easier to troubleshoot any errors.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-13T17:40:04Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Thanks, my eyes are ageing and sometimes i have trouble with small print.</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-13T18:40:47Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have another "dumb" question. When your readme's refer to make, which<br>
one is it: nmake, cmake some other one?</p>
<p>At the moment I don't have any make installed</p>
<p>Thanks</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-13T19:09:01Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><ol>
<li>
<p>No worries. My eyes have finally started to match my age and I have learned to make use of pinch to zoom on my iPhone more than I ever did before.... ;)</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>MultiMarkdown actually uses make and cmake. make runs a few commands to configure everything, and then hands off the process to cmake for the actual build. This would definitely be in the area of "call someone else for help with this on Windows", as I don't have a Windows development machine. I have an old windows VM to run MultiMarkdown, but don't have build tools on it. But I have run it on macOS, Ubuntu, and Debian just fine.</p>
</li>
</ol></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-13T21:38:28Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Thanks</p>
<p>I've installed make and cmake. Now all I have to do is decipher the error messages.</p>
<p>also, it appears (for odt) that redirecting (>) the output of multimarkdown to a file is not equivalent to specifying a -o parameter. Is that your inderstanding?</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-14T00:52:26Z2020-10-14T02:56:15ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>That may be Windows dependent. ODT is a binary format (technically, a zipped directory of files), and I don't know whether Windows' shell preserves the proper encoding when used this way. macOS does.</p>
<p>I definitely don't recommend using ODT in this manner, at least not without testing.</p>
<p>Of course, I almost always use batch mode when converting files.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-14T02:09:22Z2020-10-14T02:56:17ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>When getting familiar with things I tend to just “push all the buttons” to see what will happen. Sometimes it blows up in my face but usually I learn a lot. Not infrequently I push a button that was never tested thoroughly and find a bug, though not with your stuff. It’s always been rock solid.</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-14T03:00:33Z2020-10-14T03:00:33ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>No worries. I tend to do the same thing.</p>
<p>And thank you -- I've worked hard over the years to continue stress testing MultiMarkdown to minimize bugs. To my knowledge, there are no "crashing" type bugs, but there are still a couple of edge case bugs in the output processing where the results aren't exactly what I would prefer them to be. Fortunately, they are pretty rare edge cases that affect few users (though one involves nested blockquotes in ODT output, so you may run into that one...)</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T17:07:44Z2020-10-16T17:07:44ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Hi,</p>
<p>I obviously don't understand file transclusion. In the screenshot, I<br>
expected to see the entire contents of the transcluded file (which<br>
contains my citations) but I only see links that jump to the places<br>
where the citations appear in the main text. I have attached the file<br>
that is transcluded.</p>
<p>What should I be doing differently?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Dan</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T19:59:33Z2020-10-16T19:59:33ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>I can't see the top of your document obviously, but it looks like you don't have file transclusion turned on in the MMD preferences since the `<code>{{References...}}</code> is shown verbatim in the preview.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T20:10:32Z2020-10-16T20:10:32ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>This is the first line:<br>
transclude base: .</p>
<p>is more required?</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T20:31:27Z2020-10-16T20:31:27ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Composer application preferences, not the document itself.</p>
<p>Transclude base metadata is only required if you want it to be something other than<code>.</code>, or if you are doing something complicated with it. It doesn't hurt to include, but not strictly necessary for most cases.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T20:35:14Z2020-10-16T20:35:14ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Hi.</p>
<p>Below is the opening part of my document. I've attached the<br>
multimarkdown out for odt. Neither word nor LibreOffice will open it.</p>
<p>Output to html and mmd formats both work.</p>
<p>Any ideas?</p>
<p>Dan</p>
<hr>
<p>transclude base: .</p>
<h1><a name="data-vs-informational-artifacts-are-information-and-data-synonymous-" class="anchor" href="#data-vs-informational-artifacts-are-information-and-data-synonymous-"></a>Data vs Informational Artifacts: Are Information and Data Synonymous?</h1>
<p>Daniel Essin<br>
<a href="mailto:essin@ieee.org">essin@ieee.org</a></p>
<h2><a name="abstract" class="anchor" href="#abstract"></a>Abstract</h2>
<p>The number of failed or malfunctioning projects and systems continues to<br>
outnumber the successes. Time and again the same root causes are<br>
incriminated, yet they recur. This suggests that other, as yet<br>
unidentified factors may be involved. Once such factor is explored here:<br>
confusion. Close examination reveals that, although the words<br>
information and data are used frequently, that their meaning is far from<br>
clear; they are often conflated or used interchangeably. It can be<br>
demonstrated that confusion exists about the meaning of these words, and<br>
by extension, their underlying concepts. It represents a previously<br>
unrecognized root cause, or contributing factor, to some failures. This<br>
paper presents a new information-centered semantic framework that, if<br>
diligently applied in computer science and technology, has the potential<br>
to reduce the ambient level of confusion. Each term denotes a single<br>
concept. The goal is to bring clarity allowing a more precise<br>
understanding of the meaning of the words, thereby facilitating the<br>
realization of common goals. The definitions and the accompanying<br>
examples demonstrate that data and information are not synonymous.<br>
Informational artifacts have the potential to satisfy the need for data<br>
whereas data, devoid as it is, of context, can be easily misinterpreted<br>
and be an unrecognized cause of failure.</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T21:55:36Z2020-10-16T21:55:36ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>The ODT XML itself is valid, so there is not a trivial error.</p>
<p>Your best bet is recursive bifurcation. Split the file in half and see if the first half works and then the second half. If one half doesn't work, then split that piece in half... Eventually you should be able to narrow in on the problem area (assuming there is a single point of failure.)</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T22:08:46Z2020-10-16T22:08:46ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>HI again,</p>
<p>Am I cursed? What's going on with Abstract and Introduction?</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-16T22:32:51Z2020-10-16T22:32:51ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Don't worry too much about the preview. You can always refresh it if it looks like something needs to be updated.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-17T03:40:06Z2020-10-17T03:40:06ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Thanks</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-17T03:41:11Z2020-10-17T03:41:11ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Ok</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T19:17:47Z2020-10-18T19:17:47ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Hi,</p>
<p>The odt output does not fail until the the last line is included in the<br>
source.</p>
<p>{{References-CRLF+extras.md}}</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T19:21:49Z2020-10-18T19:21:49ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>also, in sourxe:</p>
<ul>
<li>Structural features of the way the facts are arranged. Facts may "inherit" context from their apposition or placement relative to other, associated facts.</li>
</ul>
<p> Some correlons are obligatory such as the units (mph) associated with the numerical speed of a vehicle. The central fact is the velocity, but<br>
velocity is not a dimensionless number; its numerical component alone is<br>
meaningless. Other correlons are ampliative. They extend or supplement a<br>
central fact. Using systolic blood pressure as an example, the central<br>
fact with its obligatory correlon is 135 mmHg. Ampliative correlons<br>
include the position of the subject (sitting or supine), where the<br>
measurement was made (left arm or right leg), the size of the cuff, etc.<br>
Ampliative correlons give additional meaning to the central fact. The<br>
potential of facts to be informative is proportional to the number of<br>
ampliative correlons available.</p>
<p>the paragraph "some..." is not indented in the odt but all other<br>
paragraphs with 2 leading spaces are.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T20:05:58Z2020-10-18T20:05:58ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>If you look at your references file, you have some non-ASCII characters<br>
in #3. Those could be invalid.</p>
<p>Could also verify that the "circular reference" in #26 is valid.</p>
<p>Try bifurcating the references file to determine the trouble spot, just<br>
like you did with the main file.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T20:06:56Z2020-10-18T20:06:56ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>2 leading spaces doesn't mean anything in Markdown. 4 leading spaces is<br>
equivalent to a tab, which means to indent.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T21:17:22Z2020-10-18T21:17:22ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>I'll try four. I wonder why all the others indented with two.</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T21:19:28Z2020-10-18T21:19:28ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>I think if you look again, you'll find they didn't. 2 spaces is not enough to indent in Markdown or MultiMarkdown. (Some other programs indent with 2 spaces, but that is not the Markdown specification.)</p>
<p>If you still think 2 spaces caused an indent, send me the file and I will take a look to see what happened.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T23:43:16Z2020-10-18T23:43:16ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Hi,<br>
re: verify that the "circular reference" in #26 is valid.<br>
I'm trying to get #26 to refer to #10.<br>
I probably did it wrong.</p>
<p>These are the references:<br>
[#0]: Igor Douven. "Abduction", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Summer 2017 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/sum2017/entries/abduction/">https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/sum2017/entries/abduction/</a>. [#1]: Renee Dustman. 2019. Hundreds of New ICD-10-cm-Codes Effective Oct 1. Retrieved from <a href="https://www.aapc.com/blog/47461-hundreds-of-new-icd-10-cm-codes-effective-oct-1/">https://www.aapc.com/blog/47461-hundreds-of-new-icd-10-cm-codes-eff...</a> [#2]: Daniel J Essin. 1993. Intelligent processing of loosely structured documents as a strategy for organizing electronic health care records. Methods Inf. Med. 32, 04 (1993), 265?268. [#3]: Daniel J Essin. 1997. Patterns of Trust and Policy. In Proceedings of the 1997 New Security Paradigms Workshop, Association for Computing Machinery. January 1998 Pages 38-47 <a href="https://doi.org/10.1145/283699.283738">https://doi.org/10.1145/283699.283738</a> [#4]: Daniel J Essin and Thomas L Lincoln. 1994. An information model for medical events. In Proceedings of the 18th Annual Symposium on Computer Applications in Medical Care, American Medical Informatics Association, 509. [#5]: Richard Feynman. 1969. What is Science? Phys. Teach. 7, 6 (1969), 313?320. [#6]: Richard Feynman. Knowing Something. Retrieved January 30, 2019 from <a href="https://fs.blog/2015/01/richard-feynman-knowing-something/">https://fs.blog/2015/01/richard-feynman-knowing-something/</a> [#7]: Carl G Hempel. 1958. Fundamentals of Concept Formation in Empirical Science. University of Chicago Press. [#8]: Rich Hickey. 2012. The Value of Values. Retrieved August 14, 2012 from <a href="https://www.infoq.com/presentations/Value-Values/">https://www.infoq.com/presentations/Value-Values/</a> [#9]: N Ingebrigtsen. The Differences Between Data, Information and Knowledge. Retrieved November 15, 2019 from <a href="http://www.infogineering.net/data-information-knowledge.htm">http://www.infogineering.net/data-information-knowledge.htm</a> [#9a]: JR Josephson & SG Jacobson Abductive Inference Computation, Philosophy, Technology 1996 Cambridge University Press [#10]: Daniel Kahneman. 2011. Thinking, Fast and Slow. Doubleday Canada. [#11]: Ibram X Kendi. 2019. How to Be an Antiracist. One World/Ballantine. [#12]: George Lakoff. 2008. Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things. University of Chicago Press. [#13]: Lexico. Context. Retrieved 10-apr-2020 from <a href="https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/context">https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/context</a> [#13a]: Peter Lipton Inference to the Best Explanation 2004 Psychology Press [#14]: Lumen Learning. reading-what-is-perception. Retrieved November 15, 2019 from <a href="https://courses.lumenlearning.com/msstate-waymaker-psychology/chapter/reading-what-is-perception/">https://courses.lumenlearning.com/msstate-waymaker-psychology/chapt...</a> [#14a]: Lorenzo Magnani Abduction, Reason and Science 2011 Springer US [#15]: Mars Climate Orbiter Mishap Investigation Board. 2000. Report on Project Management in NASA. Retrieved from <a href="https://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mars/msp98/misc/MCO*">https://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mars/msp98/misc/MCO*</a><em>MIB</em>*Report.pdf [#16]: Miriam-Webster. Cognitive. Retrieved from <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognitive">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognitive</a> [#16a]: Kevin McCain & Ted Poston Best Explanations: New Essays on Inference to the Best Explanation 1996 Oxford Press [#17]: National Research Council. 1990. Computers at Risk. National Academies Press. [#18]: Openstax College. Sensation and Perception. Retrieved from <a href="http://cnx.org/contents/Sr8Ev5Og@5.49:K-DZ-03P@5/Sensation-versus-Perception">http://cnx.org/contents/Sr8Ev5Og@5.49:K-DZ-03P@5/Sensation-versus-P...</a> [#19]: George Orwell. 1946. Politics and the English language. Horizon. [#20]: Oxford English Dictionary. OED Online. Retrieved March 3, 2019 from <a href="http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/17368">www.oed.com/view/Entry/17368</a> [#21]: Charles Sanders Peirce. 1960. Collected Papers of Charles Sanders Peirce. Harvard University Press. [#22]: Michael Brian Schiffer. 1999. The Material Life of Human Beings: Artifacts, Behavior and Communication. Routledge. [#23]: Claude E Shannon. 1948. A Mathematical Theory of Communication. Bell Syst. Tech. J. 27, (1948), 379-423,623-656. [#23a]: Douglas Walton Abductive Reasoning 2014 University of Alabama Press [#24]: Welby, Lady Victoria. 1903.What is Meaning? Studies in the Development of Significance. Macmillan. [#25]: Daniel Yon. How our brain sculpts experience in line with our expectations. Retrieved from <a href="https://aeon.co/essays/how-our-brain-sculpts-experience-in-line-with-our-expectations">https://aeon.co/essays/how-our-brain-sculpts-experience-in-line-wit...</a> [#26]: Adapted from Kendi [#10]:</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T23:55:22Z2020-10-18T23:55:22ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Delete # 3 and # 26 from your reference list and see if it still<br>
crashes. If not, add them back one at a time.</p></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-18T23:59:58Z2020-10-18T23:59:58ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>Hi again,</p>
<p>I don't think the citation feature is going to work for me. I need the references to appear in the output exactly the order that they appear in the .md file - and - I need the tags on the references such as [13] to appear in the text at the point where the citation is made. Having them all renumbered and included in the reverences section in their order of appearance in the text will not work.</p>
<p>In other words, I need backward references from the bibliography to the body text, not forward references from the text to the bib.</p>
<p>From what I can tell this requirement is outside of the basic scenario that you designed for so I guess I will have to handle it some other way.</p>
<p>If I have misconstrued the citation capabilities, please let me know.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br>
Dan</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-19T00:03:09Z2020-10-19T00:03:09ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>I narrowed the problem down to the {#10]: portion of number 26.</p>
<p>Without that everything compiles fine, <em>as long as</em> I specify fodt for the conversion. the odt conversion ignores all the emphasis and merges some paragraphs that should be separate,</p></div>essintag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-19T00:28:38Z2020-10-19T00:28:38ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>If you need complex citations, then yes you may need another tool.</p>
<p>You could also try using the <code>[not cited][#10]</code> trick to see if that<br>
will force your citations into a certain order.</p>
<p><a href="https://fletcher.github.io/MultiMarkdown-6/syntax/citation.html">https://fletcher.github.io/MultiMarkdown-6/syntax/citation.html</a></p>
<p>On 10/18/20 7:59 PM, essin wrote:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I don't think the citation feature is going to work for me. I need the references to appear in the output exactly the order that they appear in the .md file - and - I need the tags on the references such as [13] to appear in the text at the point where the citation is made. Having them all renumbered and included in the reverences section in their order of appearance in the text will not work.</p>
<p>In other words, I need backward references from the bibliography to the body text, not forward references from the text to the bib.</p>
<p>From what I can tell this requirement is outside of the basic scenario that you designed for so I guess I will have to handle it some other way.</p>
<p>If I have misconstrued the citation capabilities, please let me know.</p>
</blockquote></div>fletchertag:support.fletcherpenney.net,2013-02-12:Comment/487191942020-10-19T00:31:09Z2020-10-19T00:31:09ZJust starting with MMD on Windows<div><p>That seems odd -- the FODT and ODT conversion use the same MMD->XML<br>
processing code, they just bundle the files differently. It's unusual<br>
that they would result in different formatting.</p>
<p>If you send me specific examples, I can take a look at what is happening.</p></div>fletcher